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Not that it matters all that much...but I thought this one was supposed to be 10, and the elevator shafts are only 8. Did it decrease, or do we think they are still going to add? The elevator shafts seem to have topped off at 8 a while ago.

When I went by the other day I was thinking the concrete didn't look complete. I even looked at the images on-site and they still appear to have 10 floors. The height of the crane makes me think they are going higher too.

Yeah, it's the 8-10 story stuff that is exotic around here -- makes sense that it's steel studs. But that will make your thermal envelope more difficult because steel studs conduct heat like crazy -- it's starting to become a commercial type system.

Yup. Exterior rigid insulation in addition to insulation in the cavity.

This project would renovate and expand the TCF Bank by Southdale into a 39-unit (all studios) building for young adults at risk of homelessness.

http://edinamn.gov/edinafiles/files/Adv ... Street.pdf

Being near the Southdale Transit Center helps. Improvements to the walkability around the Southdale district is useful. Prepare for pearl clutching outrage from Edinans who live nowhere near this.

The StarTribune picked it up, added some background on where the proposal to house at-risk youth homeless near Southdale came from.

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/257440871.html

Dave and Busters to lease space in Southdale Center.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... ml?ana=twt

So the third floor gets something big. Nice.

Edina is posting these all over Southdale explaining what the heck is happening on France.

Edina France Ave Outreach by xeoth, on Flickr

No free right turns will upset many. Guarantee that will be ignored by many.

Still four lanes northbound? Not cool. Also "11 to 12 feet wide, the minimum lane width" is not accurate. It just means they're too lazy to request a variance as defined by MNAR 8820.3300
I also wonder if it would have been more efficient to remove a travel lane but retain the free rights. Much of the car traffic avoids the middle of France, especially on the four-lane northbound section, since they're preparing for imminent turns.

Much of the car traffic avoids the middle of France, especially on the four-lane northbound section, since they're preparing for imminent turns.

This is very true. Anecdotally, the vast majority of northbound cars are in the right lane trying to turn at 76th, Parklawn, Gallagher, Halzelton, 70th, 69th, Southdale... that rightmost lane backs up considerably while the others see very little congestion at all. If only there was a way to travel N-S without having to go all the way over to York.

Now that I think about it, York would be 10x more useful if it was easier to access from the east for a typical driver coming to France from 494. No one is his right mind would exit at Penn and then use 76th to York to access anything he could get at directly from France. There's no room for an exit ramp to York/Xerxes, the SPUI at Penn makes accessing 78th a waste of time, and the lights at 76th take forever to cycle. France is f'd, really.

During rush hour all the lanes are used. Blown away they got rid of the free turns. That's fantastic. They really gotta do this to compete with west end.

Took this recent image of the One Southdale Place.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/69756422@N02/8rW7Ju

Updated with embedded image.


image by xeoth, on Flickr

[note: used an app to correct for the height distortion common in photos of tall things. The "correction" makes the photo look closer to the renderings one might see. The app is called SKRWT]

I've always thought there could be an extension of Lake aBRT down France.

A streetcar along the old Harriet-Como line from Uptown to France/44th south to 76th or so would be nice. Hell, let's run it down the middle of a multi-way blvd south of MN62






P.S. I'm only half-kidding. If the dense development continues in this area, something higher-capacity than buses could be necessary.

It's not so much that higher capacity transit is needed yet, but legible, faster, frequent transit to serve existing demand and draw choice riders out of their cars. France Ave is already a traffic nightmare...it's only going to get worse and stifle future development prospects if people aren't drawn out of their cars to walk and take the bus.

I was partly hoping this development would open up a side street to France. Something that allowed a bypass from the bottleneck on this stretch.

The 10 floors are getting done.

One Southdale Place 8-4-14 by bapster2006, on Flickr

Wow, this really is the "second wave" of multifamily residential building in Edina. They didn't seem to have much in the 90s/00s, and the 80s/early90s stuff is rather tower-in-the-park with big setbacks and parking lots. Once Edina converts these stroads to multiway boulevards in the coming decades, they have a shot at being rather urban.

Crane down.

Crane down by xeoth, on Flickr