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New mixed use proposal for the abandoned strip mall, Four Seasons, along 169 in Plymouth. Couple hotels, parking ramp park and ride, senior housing, retail wrapped around the parking ramp.

http://sailor.mnsun.com/2016/06/28/plan ... velopment/

Council person Jim Willis implied "the property appeared over-developed."

Coucilmember Slavik "was also very clear she did not want to see more multi-family housing in the area ... and referenced crime in the area."

Huh, I was surprised that a resident neighbor of Four Seasons is excited about all that was proposed.

New mixed use proposal for the abandoned strip mall, Four Seasons, along 169 in Plymouth. Couple hotels, parking ramp park and ride, senior housing, retail wrapped around the parking ramp.

I would like to declare that several, individual uses, all sorta close to each other is not mixed-use.

I'm not sure it's better or worse in the article that they simply called it "mixed-use" rather than my least favorite urban planning term, horizontal mixed-use.

OMG this is my newest pet peeve. Just like the Vikings HQ site is "mixed use." NOPE.

I agree that "horizontal mixed use" is not a thing, and really can't stand the term, but...

Is West End mixed-use? Is it mixed now that there's residential nearby? Was it mixed use before (sans residential) when it was office, retail, and nearby hotel?

StarTribune on the "Urban Village" concept for the Four Seasons site that Walmart was rebuffed from.

http://m.startribune.com/west-metro-sub ... ection=%2F

Also part of the boom in hotels.

Woodbury has City Place. Plymouth has Urban-Type Village.

And in Minneapolis we have a dead mall. See? It's not just the suburbs doing the imitating.

Hey now...

We have several dead malls.

Doran proposing apartments with 350 units, close to 169 and 55, where offices were once proposed.

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/03/do ... -plymouth/

It’s the large empty parcel in the center of a triangle formed by Revere Lane, 10th Ave N and TH 55.

Unrelated note: this will be adjacent to a small mobile home park.

Four Season proposals for the dead strip mall is dead.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... -mall.html

Four Seasons redevelopment is back. Dominium proposing 430 affordable multifamily apartment units plus a small amount of retail.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... asons.html

What are the chances that Plymouth approves a 100% affordable project of this scale? If it was affordable senior + market rate rentals, or mixed-income rentals, I'd give it a maybe. I suspect there will be tremendous opposition from the public to a large, 100% affordable proposal like this.

The new proposal calls for a pair of affordable housing projects — a five-story, 210-unit senior housing building and a pair of four-story general-occupancy apartmentbuildings with a total of 220 units.

In addition to the 430 units of housing, the project would also include a three-level, 229-stall parking ramp that would serve the city’s Metrolink bus service as well as overflow parking from the rest of the project.

Also, and I hesitate to mention this... the site plan shows three drive-thru windows on the retail.

One. More. Try. For Four Seasons mall.

https://finance-commerce.com/2022/04/ne ... mall-site/

This is getting darkly humorous.

Prudential sells 75-acre Plymouth campus to Scannell, Roers, which have big plans for site
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... opers.html
*UNLOCKED*

That’s a big site. It’ll probably end up looking like what was done on Cheshire Pkwy though.

Losing that building is a shame! They don't design them like that anymore.

That is some awful use of land. I'm glad they don't make corporate campuses like that anymore.

Prudential used to be so big that we had intra-company sports teams; football, softball, volleyball, plus they had archery and some other sports. All of it was played on fields both here and at the old campus off 394. So even though they had a huge plot of land a lot of it was actually active. It was probably the late 90's when they scaled the sports back and got rid of a lot of the fields, then it basically just became a private park. They had enough land I'm surprised they didn't have an executive golf course there.

I guess my main problem with these large corporate campuses is the low per acre tax rate they enjoy. I'm all for park space but the private property/ no trespassing signs kinda makes me believe this isn't a public asset.