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Hines is proposing a 29-story office tower on the "Music Wall" lot between 9th, 10th, and Marquette.

Edit: here's the Enviromental Assessment Worksheet with a lot more details (warning, 200 page pdf).

- 719ksf of office space in 29 floors (31 per the zoning code).
- 183 parking stalls in 3 underground levels, with the entrance on 9th St.
- ~2ksf of ground floor retail fronting 10th, ~4ksf of ground floor retail on the corner of 9th and 10th. The rest of the ground floor is lobby and loading dock.
- 21ksf of retail in total, so presumably 15ksf on the skyway level. There's a "Town Hall Stair" in the lobby, and a "Music Wall Stair" in the Urban Garden, which appears to be a multilevel open space between the building and the Music Wall, with a loading dock garage door at the back of it connecting to the existing alley from Nicollet (and to 9th).
- Skyway connections to the existing skyway over the alley towards Nicollet (listed as Day 1), and across Marquette to AT&T Tower (Listed as Future).

I am VERY surprised to see an office tower proposal.

I am VERY surprised to see an office tower proposal.

Hopefully they know what they are talking about and this is a good sign for the downtown office market. Wondering what a post pandemic office design looks like


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I think this looks fantastic! I Love the way the gold/coppery terra cotta plays off of the Wells Fargo Center.

Very good news!

This one will be interesting to follow as it sorta falls into the “so crazy it just might work” category.

My first thought is that it looks like it’s not so much a bet on return to office (which seems <very> risky), but a bet on what the post pandemic office will actually be (which seems risky, but with a potentially high payoff).

If you can correctly guess what the office of the future will ultimately be, and be the first to market with it, it’s conceivable that this building leases up pretty quickly.

When did the Hilton get a green roof? lol

It's just a shame that the Music Wall will be relegated to a covered back alley for the loading dock and trash compactor, and partially blocked by multiple support columns and (presumably) the second/third floor of the above tower.

Existing lot has 118 parking stalls. Proposed development would have 183 parking spaces on three levels of underground parking. To add 719,000 square feet of new office for a net gain of 65 parking spaces is just phenomenal.

Just for "fun" and comparison, I took a look at Dallas' parking minimums, and while it's possible I'm reading this wrong, my understanding is that a development of this size in that city would be required by code to provide over 2,000 parking spaces. The planet may be toast, but at least Minneapolis won't be so much to blame.

It's just a shame that the Music Wall will be relegated to a covered back alley for the loading dock and trash compactor, and partially blocked by multiple support columns and (presumably) the second/third floor of the above tower.

I drew up a plan a while back for fun that featured a lobby space with a large glass wall looking at the mural. Maybe I should send it their way.

TDT posted a picture last Friday of the wall for this development. A poster on Skyscrapercity posted it this morning
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/ ... -178700344

Overall this is a big bet by Hines on the future of downtown. Between this and north loop green they will deliver over 1 million square feet of office space in the next 4 years. If it wasn't hines I would question the logic in building a pure office building post covid

Low-class and suburban office space will bear the brunt of the shift to remote work. Presumably, this Hines space is going to be high-class and emphasize coworking and the like. If in-person collaboration is now the key benefit of in-person offices (wasn't it kind of always?) then I imagine this will be a lot of open floor plans and a lot less cubicles.

Dropping our own version here:

Does seem to have a couple columns on plan, but it's really just a garbage truck driveway

https://thedevelopmenttracker.com/mpls/ ... g3e_FubPFM

A lot more images, I like! As long as it actually gets built like that and doesn't end up removing all doors like Gateway did

It feels like this proposal is also bringing a very clear, public, street-to-skyway access. Am I misreading?

The new city offices showed how good it can be and how it is an immense improvement to have. Heck the more visible and obvious it is to get up to skyway level, the more is makes the street feel more welcoming.

If skyways will not be torn down, highly visible street-to-skyway routes are going to be the city’s next best option.

https://thedevelopmenttracker.com/mpls/ ... g3e_FubPFM

A lot more images, I like! As long as it actually gets built like that and doesn't end up removing all doors like Gateway did

Anyone else notice the reuse of the Bob Dylan mural? Is that just a place holder? Or is it foreshadowing???

I honestly can't think of a better outcome for the Dylan mural than "Hines replicated it somewhere else to forestall some of the complaints when they bought that surface lot and built an actual building right next to the downtown LRT spine".

Also, that huge spiral staircase looks like fun.

The street level on this is super impressive. Imagine if people cared about this 50 years ago, makes me want to do some urban re-renewal. But seriously-- the seeming trend of new, amenity filled office space and the conversion of outdated space to housing makes a lot of sense to me as the ideal way forward for downtown.

Based on how people are reacting to a building being built within 30 feet of this music mural, people are for sure going to whine when a building goes up next to the Dylan mural.

Murals are designed to be temporary. FULL STOP